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Post by Weasel on Apr 19, 2005 7:48:07 GMT -5
I'll be darned....Yarak and I talked about that for a bit last night trying to figure it out.....
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Post by Yarak on Apr 19, 2005 8:00:08 GMT -5
Very true. Bane does not know she is supposed to moult that way. She starts from the center and moves outwards in pairs.
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Post by Allan on Apr 20, 2005 4:12:49 GMT -5
Thats strange......never seen that before. I love the day when you go in and get your tail bell and plectrum back.Time to get the old guitar back out ;D ;D ;D Ive also noticed that of the three female Harrises Ive had,they,ve moulted steady,letting the darters come down about a third before the next pair come down....Yet this one,which Ive moulted out since an eyass on the bow drops half the tain in as many days and then stops and starts dropping again about a month later. Never seen that before either........ Was on the phone to Darren,my apprentice, last night and he told me his Harris has dropped 4 trains and is like a lunatic in the mews,even though shes leaving food....any ideas on that one......I know its her first moult,but that seems strange to me.When he asked me how mine was doing...I said FINE,2lb8 1/2ozs,full crop,6 trains down and shes on my fist at the moment  You can get away with it with a Harris ;D,but I dont know about a Redtail....theres practically no one flying them over here.I have tried it with a German male Gos.....That was a big mistake.He didnt moult out clean,ruined his train,had me in the face and ended up hating people.I gave him away......I was really low...Thats another Falconry term isn,t it ;D |
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Post by Yarak on Apr 20, 2005 12:18:57 GMT -5
The moult is triggered by many different factors, science does not understand them all. I have watched the same bird moult 11 times. Maybe 3 of those were the same. One she started with primaries, one with the tail this year it was her scapulars that began. WNV clearly had an impact on two moults. This year I hope to see no remaining effects. Yes, parts she often stops and starts many weeks later. She has always taken a full 5 months to complete her moult. Now my guess on Darren's bird, being that its the very first time it has felt hormones is just overstimulated. Working her a little on a creance to lure or something similar to expend some of that energy might be good thing. Just my thoughts.
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Post by Allan on Apr 23, 2005 2:07:27 GMT -5
Hey Yar......I know its off subject.....But what are the symptons of West Nile in a Hawk.We haven,t got it over here.....Yet.
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Post by Yarak on Apr 23, 2005 8:54:29 GMT -5
Early symptoms are difficult to detect. Mine started with a slightly closed eye. It progressed to the other. From then it came on very quickly within 48 hrs. Dehydration and problems associated with that are first. Then comes the killer encephalitis (swelling of the brain). That can cause balance problems paralysis vision loss and death.
I gave Bane the equine vaccine prior to her contracting it. It mitigated her symptoms and probably saved her. Her moult was screwed up that season and the next. If she had not gotten during the moult it would have been better. Dr Redig believes that once they get it and survive they carry enough titers in their blood to resist it. On the bright side they are working on a bird vaccine that should be ready soon.
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Post by frootdog on Apr 24, 2005 19:31:09 GMT -5
Dr. Redig presented his avian WNV vaccine studies at the last AAV conference. They tested an avian specific vaccine on a group of birds and then infected those bird and a non vaccinated control group with the virus and the vaccinated group. The vaccinated group fared much better than the control group. Based on these findings the approval of an avian specific vaccine are much more realistic and it may be available soon.
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