demarest
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Post by demarest on Sept 3, 2005 0:46:56 GMT -5
i understand kestrels can be problem birds w/ hoods.
true? anyone haveany experience?
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Post by ccrobbins on Sept 3, 2005 7:31:30 GMT -5
If you find anything on this let us, well me know. I have loads of pics of lil K birds and only one or two is hooded. I saw Mat M. say that they are so small they have a hard time supporting the hood weight but I have no experience.......Yet!
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demarest
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Post by demarest on Sept 3, 2005 21:31:02 GMT -5
you getting a kestrel?
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Post by ccrobbins on Sept 4, 2005 7:29:16 GMT -5
Not this season but I might after I fly a RT. I am very interested in them. After my app is over I would like to fly a cast of merlins...so a K seems like a nice place to start, well I hope anyway.
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Post by BlueTiercel on Sept 4, 2005 7:36:41 GMT -5
I will be flying kestrel as my first bird/birds. My sponsor who has flown merlins says that the kestrel is the natural choice before you fly a merlin.
I cant imagine the kestrel would have trouble holding up a light kangaroo hide hood. I may not know what I am talking about but that sounds ridiculous. They have the strength to rip little animals into small pieces to eat them, why not have the strength to hold up a tiny little roo hood? I have heard they man down so well (merlins even tamer) that you usually don't need one, this is just something i read, though not sure of my sponsors view. Prolly safe to be able to hood any bird, and have a hood available in case of emergency.
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SkyRider
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Post by SkyRider on Sept 4, 2005 10:15:43 GMT -5
You'd need a hood just for trapping the darn thing, wouldn't you?
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demarest
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Post by demarest on Sept 4, 2005 20:52:55 GMT -5
Good point bt. i don't get that either. i'm getting a kes too. awesome little bird killers.
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demarest
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Post by demarest on Sept 4, 2005 20:54:45 GMT -5
oh, and i'm gonna train the thing to a hood, whether it likes it or not! :-)
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demarest
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Post by demarest on Sept 4, 2005 20:55:08 GMT -5
Good point bt. i don't get that either. i'm getting a kes too. awesome little bird killers.
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Post by BlueTiercel on Sept 5, 2005 17:11:14 GMT -5
Yeah, thanks guys my wife is typing this for me. I think I am getting carple tunnel so I wont be on the computer much. Good luck with your birds.
Carl Andrews
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Post by hawkinfun on Dec 6, 2005 10:54:53 GMT -5
Hello everyone I have always flown the little devils. A little about hooding them. They will take a hood but they get so tame it is not really a requirement. As for hooding after trapping I never have, I just put
them in a shoebox until i get them home. I always train my kes to hood but i never end up actually hooding them while hunting. Been a micro-falconer for several years and I love the guys.
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Post by ritchiera on Dec 27, 2005 22:00:42 GMT -5
If Your future Kestrel is anything like my current Kestrel, It won't like a hood. Mine never needs it anyway. I built a perch and place it on the passenger seat with a towell under it. She rides in the car there without ever bating. She also sit's patiently when I take her to work for a 10 hour day. She seems to make a little noise at work now, because she knows I will feed her to keep her quiet. She now has control in that situation. Darn bird knows I can't have her squaking at work.
Anyway, I brought her home after trapping in a box, and we tried the hood a few times, but it was more trouble that it's worth. Without the hood she pays pretty good attention to what I'm doing, Manning, Training, Hunting, Working, Driving. You can tell I spend alot of time with my Kestrel.
I suggest alot of time over a hood. You'll get very little from a hooded kestrel as far as getting her used to people.
Good Luck
Bob Ritchie
Orem, UT
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demarest
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Post by demarest on Jan 12, 2006 20:45:33 GMT -5
The only reason i am seriously considering hooding is
a) getting the experience
b) i want to be able to carry/tether my bird in the presence of large buteos(local hawking meets)without scale damage/excessive bating. in this circumstance, hawk box wouldn't work.
good reasons?
R.Demarest
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Post by SkyRider on Jan 18, 2006 9:53:55 GMT -5
I went to a falconry meet in Utah this summer and they had two kestrels there. Both females, unhooded. Both were about 15-20 ft from a great horned owl among other falconry birds and completely calm. I don't know much about kestrels but I don't think that should be too much of a problem.
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Post by f3tti on Jan 20, 2006 12:37:45 GMT -5
hmm...i've read somewhere (maybe matt M's book?) that kestrels are good at removing their hoods- but nothing about lack of strength.. and that hooding is recommended for nerves (as in the case of being near larger raptors), but that otherwise it seems to be a personal decision... I am beginning my apprenticeship (i guess i might still qualify as pre-apprentice) to fly a kestrel- so we'll see what my sponsor says.  Mine's just gonna have to get used to having a big ol' red tail nearby... Caddy's used to my parrots, so we'll see! ~Maria |
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