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Post by Weasel on Aug 15, 2006 7:36:53 GMT -5
Won't the asprin thin the blood which in turn will reduce healing to the affected areas?
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Post by jfneumann57 on Aug 15, 2006 8:05:11 GMT -5
the goal is pain management for the warm water baths and increasing circulation the apsprin reduces the bloods clotting factor too. also w/ reducing the pain and such it reduces the chance of biting it own feet.
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Post by Yarak on Aug 15, 2006 10:57:24 GMT -5
I have looked at the picks, frostbite usually takes awhile to set in at only 30 degrees. In the deserts of NA temps drop low also but the indigenous Harris seem to cope without injury. I don't know what it is.
If it is frostbite aspirin will thin the the blood. In this case thats good. Blood flow is very limited in the toes. Keeping the feet warm will also increase the blood flow and reduce the swelling and damage. I first thought of an infection of some kind due to the coloration. I hope it turns out OK and we find out exactly what it is.
Yarak
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Post by jfneumann57 on Aug 15, 2006 12:01:24 GMT -5
so u agree w/ my treatment schedule then yarak?
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Post by Yarak on Aug 15, 2006 15:02:33 GMT -5
Yes it seems sound. If it were me I would do anything frootdog recommended. I have complete faith in him and his employer (a DVM)
All I can say for sure it that it is a very unfortunate situation. I hope it turns out well and that it can be prevented from reoccurring.
Yarak
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Post by frootdog on Aug 15, 2006 16:17:48 GMT -5
Go ahead and thin the blood so when the affected areas slough the bird bleeds to death since the blood cant clot, hell why don't y'all go ahead and feed the bird some anticoagulant rat poison and get it over with.
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Post by Weasel on Aug 15, 2006 19:25:05 GMT -5
d**n froot.........
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Post by jfneumann57 on Aug 15, 2006 21:17:35 GMT -5
the 1/2 asprin won't thin it out that much especially since you're only giving it once anyways by the time the dead tissue sloughs off it should aready be cycled through the birds system.
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Post by Yarak on Aug 15, 2006 21:18:16 GMT -5
Well almost anything he recomended.....D**m froot!
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Post by jfneumann57 on Aug 15, 2006 21:23:01 GMT -5
i still say the 2 dvm's that i work w/ that work on raptors and i r right because that's the treatment we use
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Post by jfneumann57 on Aug 15, 2006 22:20:58 GMT -5
it's not like we're frickin giving it heprin. oeven more than one dose. How many animals.people has froot treated i've had my share.(none of my animals though thank god)
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Post by redtailboy on Aug 16, 2006 3:20:36 GMT -5
OK i have fix for this do not get at each others thoat we are trying to help the bird not kill each other and i have a world bird sacturary down teh raod from me would you all like me to ask what you should do the tret every injury you can think of just a thought later guys
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Post by Weasel on Aug 16, 2006 9:34:25 GMT -5
I think Froot can handle it actually. He is a vet tech for one of the top raptor vets around. He knows his way around the clinic if you catch my drift.  |
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Post by frootdog on Aug 16, 2006 17:29:16 GMT -5
Hello Newman. as Seinfeld would say.
You never said to only give it once. All you said was to give 1/2 an asprin. That will kill pain for oh say ....6 - 8 hours. Also you stated the goal was to reduce pain and thin the blood. To do so the drug would have to be given on a regular basis. Not just once. To give most drugs just once is totally pointless. You have a lot to learn about veterinary medicine and should not be giving out advice when you don't understand how things work. You will get someones bird killed. Be concise and make sure people understand what you say. You can't simply say give 1/2 an asprin and assume people will know how often or for how long. Have you personally consulted your 2 vets about this particular case?
Femoralis - Warm water hydrotherapy will increase blood flow to areas that are affected without any unwanted side effects. As for pain control get something from the vet such as metecam (meloxicam). Also best of luck to you and the bird. Keep us updated. Continue to take pics and post them. This can be a learning experience for everyone.
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Post by jfneumann57 on Aug 16, 2006 21:53:35 GMT -5
i did state it though admittedly i did not state it in the inital statement and the reason is just for that intial treatment u give it of the warm water bath bacause it will hurt like hell if the nerves are still functioning. and like u said u don't want to thin the blood too much and yes i did both have said that the asprin was not required but would be a good idea. i've taought medicine for 2 years and am not back in school for animal science so i do have experience
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